percdm
that game went exactly as we predicted it would before the
season started and not at all how we predicted on friday
timstwrt
i have a couple of thoughts
first of all, it was disappointing, but not angering
they have better players
and, you could (i will) pretty much give addazio a pass for
this year, because he wasn't inheriting much
but the end of the first half was a nightmare
and it wouldn't have changed the outcome, because of the
aforementioned talent disparity
but what a coaching clusterfuck
percdm
no, it would not have changed the outcome, but it would have
changed the complexion of the game for a while
the sound was on at the bar i was at, but i have no idea
what transpired
timstwrt
constantly killing the coach is tiresome. i'm tired of it.
but the players are totally overmatched in that setting, and the coach needs to
be at his absolute best. addazio was not
so, that may have been revealing, or not
percdm
it seemed like pre-fumble, it made sense to use the timeouts
after 2nd and 3rd downs
i don't know how the fumble would change that
timstwrt
it should not have
percdm
we agree that the talent disparity was the driving force in
the game, but i want to touch on some more of the coaching
the offensive was ridiculously predictable, and it wasn't
working. usc stacked the box and shut down the run, but every first down was
yet another running play
i have no problem with calling 50 run plays against wake
forest or uconn, but when its not working, it's not just going to magically
start working by doing it more
timstwrt
i go the other way on this
well, kinda
i don't like the offense, but i knew i wasn't going to like
the offense
we knew what we were getting
the rushing every first down was a problem, and they need
more variety
but it's understandable to a certain degree that you're
trying to get your team into manageable second and third down situations on the
road against a more talented opponent
if USC was poised to crumble, it would have been due to not
giving a shit
the way to dial into not giving a shit is to make them work
until they pass a point of caring
it didn't work, but it's not stupid
percdm
i get that BC is going to be a run first team under addazio,
and i get that he wants to get to manageable 2nd and 3rd downs
but when it is clearly not working, you have to try
something else
and against a talented defense like usc's, variety is
essential
timstwrt
i feel like "try something else" means that you're
paying lip service to the talent disparity
our quarterback isn't good
we have no depth
it's not like they ran the ball all the time despite having
teddy bridgewater under center
rettig can't make the throws
percdm
no, the talent disparity we expected was on full display,
and i know that bc lacks playmakers and depth
but, lining up 3 tight ends and running right at 11 guys in
the box on first down when those guys are superior athletes is never going to
work
unless its some kind of triple option attack
timstwrt
i'm not sure what alternative you see. the game was over
when marquise lee was sprinting up the sideline in the second quarter
the rest is window dressing
again, i don't like the offense, but get used to it. this is
what we signed up for.
percdm
i disagree, things like that touchdown are going to happen
when you blitz a lot. the game wasn't over until the third quarter
its not just that the offense is boring, i'm fine with
boring, if it is effective
we were both al skinner fans
timstwrt
you're out of your mind
there was no way we could play from behind in that game and
win
nothing was going to be effective
percdm
the usc offense didn't start to own the bc defense until
late in the third quarter, when teh defense was exhausted from being on the
field all game
timstwrt
BC wasn't a couple of adjustments away
percdm
i'm not saying bc was a couple of adjustments away, but it
wasn't over until it was a three score game
regardless, that's not the point
the point is that the offense is bad...or at least not
capable of competing with a talented defense
timstwrt
USC had 230 yards of offense in the first half, 280 in the
second
but if the offense is bad, then you have to go with your
strength
which is williams, and maybe amidon on screens
but the latter is going to get blown up against super
talented teams
percdm
the offense ran 23 plays in the first half
and 27 plays in the second half
timstwrt
what is your point?
percdm
i don't think going williams first was the way to go
he had 17 carries for 38 yards, that's 2.2 yards a carry
timstwrt
17 carries isn't even that many
rettig completes fifty percent of his passes against wake,
and you want them throwing all over the coliseum
it would've been 52-7
BC ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH
that's the headline
the rest of this is complaining about the strategy for the
sake of conversation
better strategy and they could've lost 35-14
or 52-7
hard to say which way that cuts
percdm
but they're going to play other teams with talented defenses
that maybe aren't as talented as usc's
timstwrt
and lose
percdm
is the gameplan going to be williams on first down
timstwrt
because they aren't very good
spoiler alert: that's how this goes
i'd like to see some more playaction on first down, but the
QB hasn't shown me that it's going to be particularly effective
percdm
early in the game, they rolled out rettig and hit amidon for
one of his two catches, that looked like something to go back to
timstwrt
the best case scenario for this season remains the same as
it ever was: beat the four teams we're better than, hope to squeak out a couple
of wins that we shouldn't and go to a bowl game
percdm
at some point, i would have liked to see more targeting of
amidon, even if usc was focused on shutting him down
it's frustrating to watch them stack the box and completely
shut down the run, and then be able to key on amidon on clear passing downs
but, you are right, the solution there is in more talent
timstwrt
yes, it's frustrating. the reason it's frustrating isn't
because BC isn't being clever enough
*but the reason
percdm
but lesser teams do beat better teams by being more clever
sometimes. they rarely knock off more talented opponents by trying to run right
over them
timstwrt
two weeks until FSU....maybe addazio will implement the
spread
percdm
if he wants to try to be competitive, he should implement
some interesting plays
i'd settle for an end around, since he'll apparently have to
keep it on the ground
at least give me this: amidon, as the best offensive player,
should rarely, if ever, come off the field
timstwrt
sure...i'd be fine with him under center and running the
read option
if you want to get "interesting"
percdm
that might have been more effective
anyway, you are sticking to 5-7 on the season? i am, i don't
think anything has changed appreciably since before the usc game
timstwrt
maybe addazio can create a whole new roster with his mind
percdm
isn't that what being a dude is all about?
timstwrt
speaking of terrible BC offense, did you know that doug
martin is the head coach at new mexico state?
how the fuck does that happen?
he must be an incredible interview
percdm
yeah, also, it's new mexico st
although, that'd be a potential loss on our schedule with a
different coach
timstwrt
definitely does not matter...he went 29-53 as kent state
head coach, then coach an abysmal BC offense to 2-12...that's a trajectory to
FCS coordinator, not FBS head coach
he and kiffin could run cults
percdm
if i had to choose one, kiffin's would be more exciting