Notre Dame to the ACCish: Wild, Baseless Speculation is Our Lifeblood

percDM:  ND to ACC in all sports but football

will play 5 games against ACC teams in football

timstwrt:  indeed

percDM:  big move for acc, more bad news for big east

timstwrt:  it seems i'm about three minutes ahead of everyone on this
since i just had four chat boxes pop up saying the same thing
holy shit, ACC is also jacking exit fees to $50m

percDM:  makes sense

timstwrt:  also, bad for purdue

percDM:  no its not
i don't think

timstwrt:  five ACC games, and ND leak says the only protected rivals are stanford, USC, navy

percDM:  nd will play 5 acc teams, 3 big ten teams, 2 pac-12 teams, navy, an d one other game

percDM:  this is also great for uconn
in that uconn will never be in the acc

timstwrt:  i don't think it'll be three big ten teams, but i've re-evaluated and think they'll keep michigan and purdue

percDM:  i do think michigan and purdue are bigger rivals for nd than michigan st
but, i'm not sure why they wouldn't keep three bigten teams, they've played those three teams forever

timstwrt:  i don't think they want to have 11 committed games every year.  if they did, they would just join a football conference

percDM:  they have 9 right now
10 if you include bc in that

timstwrt:  have you switched over to making my argument for me?
9 and 10 are fewer than 11, right?

percDM:  but those are conference levels of commtment
i'm not sure what nd loses by have 11 committed games
they could still schedule one big 12 or sec school
or more likely, tulsa
or some crappy school

timstwrt:  they lose the option of scheduling one crappy school and one marquee school

percDM:  i honestly think they'll get their yearly crap from the acc
5 games is a lot

timstwrt:  i guess they might rotate through the whole ACC
which wouldn't be great for us

percDM:  they might, but i don't think they will
they've traditionally played bc and pitt
maybe they'll lock in those
and rotate the other 3 games
they've got some history with miami and syracuse
somewhat of a history with georgia tech too

percDM:  will it also cost nd $50 million to leave the conference?

timstwrt:  yes

percDM:  also, i just looked at nd's schedule this year
they're playing bc, miami, pitt, and wake forest
that's already four acc teams
that 50 million is a big number
because that means if nd's football independence becomes threatened by the huge conference money, they'll join the acc
and not the big ten

timstwrt: so, does it make sense to grab georgetown and have a 16 team basketball league?

percDM:  yeah, i think its georgetown
i guess it could be villanova, although they are trying to build a football program, so they're probably out of the running
percDM:  from the blog on sept 20 of last year: i see the best scenario as nd and georgetown joining as non-football playing schools
we are very close

timstwrt:  i'm sure you would have dug that up if it had been something i said

percDM:  haha
of course
you were pushing for georgetown and villanova
which was a fine scenario

timstwrt:  i was pushing for anything that blocked uconn
this works

percDM:  and maybe better
i just saw eagle in atlanta said this meant the acc would probably add uconn or rutgers
and i completely disagree
i think georgetown remains the most likely option

timstwrt:  rutgers or uconn makes no sense

percDM:  but providence would be a giant fuck you to the big east
p.s. i don't want it to be providence

timstwrt:  let's walk through this
say you add uconn
you have unbalanced football divisons?
or notre dame plays all five of their games within one division?

percDM:  can you make that work with the 5 nd games?

timstwrt:  still doesn't work
because there'd be someone not playing an ostensible "divisional" opponent

percDM:  right

timstwrt:  and all of this doesn't acknowledge the fact that there's a much easier option out there, and they're playing basketball in our nation's capital

percDM:  who else is an option besides georgetown
st. john's?

timstwrt:  with notre dame's quasi-affiliation and $50m exit fees, football is protected
may as well reassert basketball's dominance and call it a day
i guess st. john's or providence
in that order

percDM:  is there any reason georgetown wouldn't want to leave the big east?

timstwrt:  history

percDM:  yeah, but with syracuse in the acc, isn't that a lot of the history?
and add nd, pitt, and bc

timstwrt:  you asked if there was a reason.  i didn't say it was a good one.

percDM:  yeah, that was unfair
i wanted you to be my straw man

timstwrt:  there's not a compelling reason that i see, no
although, travel considerations might be a bigger factor when you don't have the football cash cow

percDM:  but the new big east is going to have huge travel issues
even in non-football

timstwrt:  yeah, i'm going more "straw grabber" than "straw man"
i don't know why they wouldn't

percDM:  i think this is great for the acc
and good for bc
although i am a little worried about losing the yearly series with nd
which, i guess, could happen

timstwrt:  and awful for the university of connecticut!

percDM:  that's the cherry on top