percdm
It would be refreshing (from a BC football perspective) if the ridiculousness over whether or not the game would be played during the shutdown ends up being the most dramatic part of the game
timstwrt
i don't believe that the games were ever really in danger
it was a political football. literally. get it?
i refuse to get it
it's because it's about politics and football
nope, still not seeing it
and people sometimes like to use sports metaphors in politics
our politicians are just barely not dumb enough to deny americans their football
there's no way the air force-navy game was ever in danger. and that nonsense about it being a defense secretary decsion?
i'm sure chuck hagel spent an afternoon in asia worrying about intercollegiate athletics
but at least the contrived drama kept our football team in the spotlight for a minute
i wish i was certain that hagel didn't spend an afternoon thinking about it
but as usual, as an afterthought
people seemed very concerned about the navy-air force game, and then oh yeah, the bc-army game
the obviously don't know how big this game is for me
since sitting in the stands at west point last year was my nadir as a BC fan
and the nadir of frank spaziani's life, presumably
spaz hardly even noticed
what was the final score last year?
some ungodly number of points given up to a triple option service academy is all i remember
34-31
ah, yes, a truly ridiculous outcome
but we have a new coach and a new defensive strategy
and army doesn't have jameis winston
he...wasn't bad last week
espn's recap of the game has the headline, "No. 8 FSU uses hail mary to down BC"
yeah, actually, i don't have anything to say about army. i hope we win. but there are a couple of things about last week's game that i'd like to document
we're coach killers generally, and people seemed upset about how the end of the first half was coached
i had no problem whatsoever going conservative and punting when we're getting the second half kick and they had roared back to tie
i thought that was the exact right play in that situation
it just turns out they have one of the best players in the country, and he made an absurd play
i can live with that
i am generally anti-conservative, and so i was against the play calling
but, as you noted, getting the ball back to start the first half changes the math a little
i would have liked to see a little aggression there, but i don't hate what we did
the fact that we probably don't have one player who could start for them changes the math a little too
devito, maybe
well, that's where i think it changes it towards being aggressive
you can't expect to stick with them punch for punch
so when you're in a good position, press it
bc jumped out the lead by being aggressive and taking some chances
we were no longer in a good position
we were hanging on for dear life
on the 40 with 1:49 left?
we had been up 17-3
that's a pretty good opportunity to got for a score and up at the half
it's also a good opportunity to throw a pick six
which would have been back breaking
like giving up a score to their explosive offense
just to be clear, you're trying to use odds when it's "at the 40, 1:49 left," but ignoring them when it's "QB in the grasp, no time left on the clock"
it was a once in a lifetime play....doesn't make the strategy wrong
no, that's clearing things up with a muddy rag
nate silver would back me up
yeah, nate loves your use of numbers here
pick six is likely, bc score is unlikely, fsu offensive score is once in a lifetime
but, let's talk about the good things
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/9/28/4781114/jameis-winston-hail-mary-florida-state
once in a lifetime
i was talking about good things. that was smart coaching, and the players played well
you seem to not comprehend that most other teams have beeter players
those better players are liable to win games
yeah, especially if you wait around for them to do it
it's how "better" works
to beat a better team, you've got to be aggressive and get lucky
not just line up and hope you somehow beat them
you're right, being smart isn't any part of it
it wasn't smart, it was an ok decision
you're categorically wrong
what's the drawback of throwing the football with 1:49 left and 15 yards from field goal position?
that your not-great offense either turns the ball over or gives their explosive offense the ball back with plenty of time?
and you're losing a game you led the entire half
wait, are we conflating two drives?
i think bc had the ball on the forty with like 6 minutes left
and then it was 2 runs and an incomplete pass, then a punt for a touchback
the actual 1:49 was from the 20 or so, right?
that makes sense to run the ball
we should recap on monday or tuesday...
yeah, i just checked the play-by-play
like i said, categorically wrong
bc had the ball at the 40 with 6:15 left
even i didn't know just how wrong you were
so, we definitely agree with the very end of half play calling
however, the play calling with 6:15 left was terrible
if you say so
2 runs for 0 yards, then an incomplete pass
followed by a punt for a touchback
i can't trust anything you say anymore
http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=332710103&period=2
timstwrt
but i was pleased with the way the team fought, and a couple of breaks going the other way could have led to a huge win
yeah, the team looked much better, and got some big plays
williams had a big day, which i can't remember him ever doing against a talented defense
i'm done here. go eagles, shut down army.
that's another clever play on current events
BC 27-10
BC 31 - Army 13
did you initially think 27-10 too, but changed to make it different?
i actually thought 31-10, and decided to give them another field goal...they're bad in the red zone but move the ball (my after the fact rationalization)
A little pre-game analysis since we game nowhere near it in the post:
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I think Williams will have a big game - the Army defensive line won't be strong enough to hang with the offensive line and Williams will run over and around the linebackers and secondary. Amidon will also have a big game, which will be most of Rettig's production. I like the Addazio and Day are switching up the receiving depth chart, but I'm not convinced Dudek is the answer. Either way, Amidon will get open a lot and Rettig will continue to look to him first. I'd like to see him spread the ball around a little more and get other guys involved, but I'm not sure that would even carry over against better competition because they're just not good enough to get open. I hope to see more of Willis, he is a big play threat and should see more of the field.
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I hope-think that the defense will disrupt Army's timing and pitches by being in the backfield. I know Army's wingbone is different than Wake Forest's motion-spread option, but BC's defensive pressure really screwed with the Demon Deacons' timing, which caused some terrible pitches and fumbles. I think Brown will have some specific blitz packages for the Army game, and he should use all of them since we won't face another team like Army all year.
Also, any comments about the teams being distracted because of the shutdown issues are incredibly stupid.
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